have been a loyal igor follower for many many years, was eager to join him on this new sight and even bout a 6 month membership. Now i find there is pretty much nothing you can look at if you dont pay. with all the contributors electing to have their uploads seen by "members" only, it has ruined everything. guess it is time to go back to VW at least everything there is still free and not a cash driven greed site.

sorry igor, but you have ruined it for a lot of people.

VW is a 'cash driven greed site'- have a look at the models, clearly for most of them the main reason for being there is to make money.

and that's what Vcity is turning into and it is even happening with the full support of contributors that block the contri for general viewing. I mean come on, out the the voyeur section 2 out of 20 posts can be seen

Yes, VW has had much better content for months now. Sad to say, this site is not worth it anymore. I just checked in to see if it was still alive LOL. The pay for view format has killed it.

From a contributors point of view, I post 90% as Vresident for several reasons It is actually my wife and while she does enjoy being seen she does not want world wide fame. This is a non paying site as we get no $$ incentive to post. Posts I have made for Vcitzens and for "free" get 40% less likes but 3 to 4 times the views and eventually show up on another internet site without my consent. Vresident posts do not show in search engines which is also important to us. From a viewers prospective I want to see normal everyday wives not cookie cutter paid models. So I pay to post and pay to view.

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Thanks for pointing this out. We agree with everything you've written and we post for VRes only for those exact reasons. There is a lot of risk for posters on this, and any, site and zero risk for you voyeurs. And guys, if you can't understand that...good luck to you.

Lelo and DJ have good points, and I fully agree. But I'd like to add two things...

...the feedback received allowing a post to be viewed by VC members, or by everyone is far more likely to get abusive feedback. Unfortunately, some people think will say anything they want if there is not risk to them, and the anonymity of this kind of site gives that to them, and they take advantage of it when they do not have to worry about the possibility of losing a paid membership. I've had several VR contributors they will never post for VC members again because of some foul comments that they would never get from VR members.

...DJ, there are some of us 'voyeurs' that also post the occasional photo, so there are a few of us that share the same risks as the wonderful couples and single girls do...at least in theory if not in fact. But at least, when you are 'out there', you understand the point of view of a contributor much better. There are site around that do not give new members full access to all of the privileges of being a member until the new member has made some sort of contribution to the site itself. Perhaps that is not a bad concept. I can't help noticing that those people that object to these restrictions usually have empty profiles and blogs...

Jammer...Don't want to point out the obvious but once you post you're no longer just a voyeur. So yes, you do understand and share the same risks.

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DJ, that is quite true, I yield to your judgement...

Not all of us 'voyeurs' are from the free side. I pay to participate in the community, and strive to be respectful and never abuse the exciting and wonderful contributors in any way.

In every audience, there is the one or two who like to throw stuff at the screen, and I want to go on record that there are quite a few of the rest of us that abhor those that do.

I enjoy the fact that there is a closed portion of the site, and for those that refuse to pay for access to it, there are many other outlets for free on the net. It's akin to visiting a free art exhibit and complaining that you didn't get to see everything that the patrons will see at the exclusive evening showing.

I hope that this rant covered all the bases!

Sorry Ryder, I didn't mean to give the impression that all 'voyeurs' on the free side of the site are rude or abusive. There are only a few that visit and do so at random intervals. But one hurtful comment is often enough to make a wonderful woman question whether she should be putting herself out there like this. The point I was trying to make is that the reason that most VR contributors post to VR members exclusively isn't because Igor or the site is making them do so, or because they want to line Igor's pockets, it's because the environment for them in the free sections is not conducive to encourage contributing. That's the reason that VC members are not having access to most of the content. Its unfair to the many of decent viewers out there to be tarred by the same brush, its also unfair to blame the site for causing this when all they are doing is providing a safe and enjoyable place to post for those members that prefer a little more 'privacy'. Igor has many times encouraged VR members to post full contries and pics that are open to all viewers, not the other way around.

i am sorry guys, your missing the point... the FREE voyeur clouds section includes the candid and voyeur photos, assuming the intent they are candid pictures of people on a beach or mall or where ever. So respectfully you comment about staying somewhat anonymous does not hold water. I come here to have a look at what was caught on the beaches around the world. not to ogle your wives. that is after all the meaning of the word voyeur. and yet, pretty much every single "candid" post is blocked from my sight.

i mean really, what could possibly be the motivation for a contributor to block candid shots

Toonz, you make a valid point, and one that I will willingly concede. Since I pay very little attention to the voyeur/what I saw pics, I didn't realize so many were posted for VR only. Perhaps one of the regular voyeur photographers could shed some light on this, but I have nothing to offer...

Impossible to say what the motivations are. I assume they are not even always clear and reasoned for the contributors themselves. All my posts are designated to all registered users. Why? that's how I started here, am happy with the way things are panning out, and am automatically continuing with it... The thing to remember is that it is the contributors who are making the decision, not admin.

In VW everything is free?? that's not how I remember it... Anyways - look for the site you enjoy and have fun.

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i agree

I have noticed that VC has a consistent group of contributors. VW on the other hand seemingly has new and spontaneous contributors. No complaints, just observation on the fly. Am I wrong ?

There are both kinds here, but I thing the 'bloggy' nature of VC makes those who get hooked stay. And I have no idea who I may be talking about... lol...

This site, voyeurclouds, has become a pay site...a pay site should have better content better quality pics...sorry I or and admins, ya'll have gone down hill and have hit the bottom...yes you can remove nickname for being a welcome guest 'cause I won't be coming...and I don't think I'll be missing anything because the original site VW, will have most of the same pics without being blocked...I don't know who is at fault and don't care, adios!